Q&A: When does Christianity become bridge not poker? and isn't faith a gamble?

June 22, 2010 :: Posted by - admin :: Category - Q&A Forum

Question by Dear Dogma: When does Christianity become bridge not poker? and isn’t faith a gamble?
Metaphorically speaking that is…

I was thinking how many different forms (sects) of Christianity there are and how confusing this must be to the outsider (and to the insider for that matter). I was thinking about the analogy of the poker real money, and thought that Protestantism considered as a whole, might be considered a variant of the original “straight poker” game….. Still poker… but with a few draws or wild-cards or the best 5 of seven cards etc. All still poker real moneys, but with a slight variation.
I don’t play bridge, but I understand the fundamental difference between poker and trump games. While both card games, bridge is nothing like texas hold em.
I conceptually see the fundamental rules that must be adhered to be considered an orthodox Christian (straight poker) as contained in the early church creeds. Outside of that, while still Christian, Protestant sects (variant poker real moneys) that adhere to the same basic principles plus or minus a few rules (wild cards) are also considered poker in my imperfect analogy. But at some point (I believe at the loss of belief in the deity of Christ) Christianity (poker) becomes something else (bridge). While still a card game (religion) it is not Christianity (poker).

Your thoughts;

Bonus Question; Is any religious belief essentially a gamble?

Peace; DD

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Answer by Evil Penguin
Bonus answer: Yes, any religious belief is a gamble

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5 Responses to “Q&A: When does Christianity become bridge not poker? and isn't faith a gamble?”

  1. Jim Says:

    The obvious flaw in your logic is that Christianity is not a gamble. Both poker and bridge are games of uncertainty and chance. With Christianity (I’m a Protestant) Christ won the game for us. He has ALL the cards. He doesn’t simply make my hand stronger, He plays the hand for me. And there are no cards outside of His that can win the game. So no, my religion is not a gamble. I’m all in.

    I hope this makes since. I’ve never used a poker analogy to try to explain this.

  2. Only Jesus Saves Says:

    Interesting question! I am a Christian and I play both poker and bridge. If I understand your metaphors correctly…. I would say both faith and non-faith are a gamble in that either way you are betting what will or will not happen after death. I would also say that all forms of religion are more like bridge than poker because they all prescribe certain structure (doxology).

    And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition [Mark 7:8-9]. McGee comments on this passage as follows: Here was the whole issue. They were substituting traditions of men for the Word of God. A tradition may actually be good and may be established for a very good reason. However, it becomes evil when it is a substitute for the Word of God in later generations. And that is what has happened to these people here. I think this is the reason that so many denominations today have departed from the Word of God. They first substituted a creed for the Word of God. Then they began to substitute the word of men and the thinking of men and their own little ritual and their own little denomination. Before long, the Word of God went out the window. This has happened again and again. My friend, if you have a religion, I suggest you get rid of it and exchange it for Christ. I personally do not think one can call Christianity a religion. There is no ritual whatsoever given with Christianity. Have you ever stopped to think of that? This is the reason we can have all kinds of churches with different forms of worship — for instance you can sing the Doxology if you want to, but you don’t have to. Christianity was never given a form to follow. Why? Because Christianity is a Person. To be a Christian means that you trust Christ. Religion has never been very helpful to man.

    Believers do not meet in one place to worship God today; we meet around One Person and that Person is the Lord Jesus Christ. That is the important thing to keep in mind today. The name of your church doesn’t make the difference. The denomination or lack of denomination of your church doesn’t make the difference. The all-important question is this: do you meet around the person of Jesus Christ? Now, friends, if you don’t, that is idolatry, because then you are meeting around something that is replacing Christ. If you are meeting to socialize or be entertained, that is idolatry. The thing that is to draw us together into a oneness is the person of Jesus Christ. How important that is!
    —J. Vernon McGee’s Thru The Bible

    Don’t get me wrong…I also believe it is better to worship and fellowship with Christians than just being by myself. And I love singing old hymns. And there are some really good sermons to be heard. But I don’t pay much attention to dogma.

    I also agree with the following

    http://www.irishcalvinist.com/?p=833:
    Religion says, if I obey, God will love me.
    Gospel says, because God loves me, I can obey.

    Religion has good people & bad people.
    Gospel has only repentant and unrepentant people.

    Religion values a birth family.
    Gospel values a new birth.

    Religion depends on what I do.
    Gospel depends on what Jesus has done.

    Religion claims that sanctification justifies me.
    Gospel claims that justification enables sanctification.

    Religion has the goal to get from God.
    Gospel has the goal to get God.

    Religion sees hardships as punishment for sin.
    Gospel sees hardship as sanctified affliction.

    Religion is about me.
    Gospel is about Jesus.

    Religion believes appearing as a good person is the key.
    Gospel believes that being honest is the key.

    Religion has an uncertainty of standing before God.
    Gospel has certainty based upon Jesus’ work.

    Religion sees Jesus as the means.
    Gospel sees Jesus as the end.

    Religion ends in pride or despair.
    Gospel ends in humble joy.

  3. Edward J Says:

    If you view the pursuit of truth as a gamble then I can see how you might arrive at this opinion. However evasion of the truth may also just another ploy in which you look at all the faults, failures and hypocrisy of everyone else and use it to justify opting out and living for yourself. In the end our cards will be shown to use your analogy and we will see who really was bluffing. Imagine in any other setting someone employing the strategy you suggest. And controversy exists in every area of life. Imagine scientists quoting pascals wager every time they disagreed with someone and yet we know the history of science has been a history or controversy. And I am not just talking about the evolution question. In politics we see much strong division I guess the politicians should quote pascals wager and quit. (is the bigger danger being wrong or using everyone else as an excuse to justify copping out).

  4. Mircea Eliade type guy Says:

    You fail right off the bat, in what you pick as the point of comparison in your extended conceit.

    But the greatest thing by far is to have a command of metaphor. This alone cannot be imparted by another; it is the mark of genius, for to make good metaphors implies an eye for resemblances.
    Arsitotle, The Poetics

    You see, your arguments argues for the opposite, that there must be some great and overriding truths that make all the rest secondary or tertiary. And in fact there are , the Incarnation and the Trinity.

    “You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!”

  5. wispy Says:

    Watch out! That metaphor is stretched and she’s gonna blow! LOL Christianity was never a gamble. so it is a false metaphor to boot.
    Don’t know about you, but my faith is not a game at all. (To say so might be to blaspheme at least mentally.)

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